Real Carbon Credit Farming – the Road to Biocide

If you were so silly as to want a sustainable long-term method to keep locking away the sparse carbon resources of the atmosphere using “carbon farming”, the ONLY way to do it is to harvest regular crops of trees, pastures, cereals and grazing animals. Then use these carbon-rich products to build homes and feed families, thus creating long-term storage of the carbon in buildings as timber, or in human bodies as flesh and bone.

Finally, when these carbon carriers reach the end of their life, bury the old timber and the dead bodies in deep holes so that the carbon never gets back into the biosphere. Such burial should attract carbon credit payments.

Such a scheme will methodically remove carbon dioxide, the gas of life, from the carbon cycle – a sure way to starve life on Earth.

It is the road to biocide, but that seems to be what the Deep Greens want.

Let’s hope they starve first.

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia
[email protected]

Comments

[dB]

1.

The "Deep Greens"? I think that's actually LNP policy you're quoting there. From "Our Plan"

https://lnp.org.au/static-news/our-plan-real-solutions-for-all-australians/

We will support projects such as the exploration
of soil carbon technologies and abatement, putting
carbon back in soils

[AlterEgo]

2.

Good one dB.

Three cheers for Viv Forbes - a long time coal miner.

Why would he accept climate science?

Quite an impressive CV. Read about it here.

http://www.desmogblog.com/viv-forbes

[AlterEgo]

3.

Full actual quote from "Our Plan - Real Solutions for All Australians"

We will support projects such as the exploration
of soil carbon technologies and abatement, putting
carbon back in soils and providing for a once in
a generation replenishment of our farmlands.

Oh dear - and using a "green Army" of 15,000 to do it!

[kraka]

4.

A policy which will actually do some good without destroying our competitive advantage. The carbon tax ticks neither of those boxes.

[dB]

5.

I wonder how the Nationals half of the LNP feel about a Green Army arriving on their grazing land to plant trees. Where's Barnaby when you need him?

[AlterEgo]

6.

Whacko kraka.

A policy which will actually do some good

Not according to Viv Forbes, it won't.

By the way - still going to drink the Grange on election night, or have you bought in a slab of VB.

[dB]

7.

With Labor's carbon tax reverting to an ETS a year sooner, presumably at a price not much above 0, it seems the LNP is now the party of choice for tree-huggers. They're the ones going to spend billions of my tax dollars planting trees on farmers' land.

[AlterEgo]

8.

As Viv Forbes is a coal miner, he will be ripping far more carbon (coal) out of the ground to be burned to form CO2, than Tony Abbott could ever bury to offset an increase in CO2 levels.

[Allan]

9.

Are you so bereft of intelligence that you can't see that a reversion to a lower cost "Emissions Trading Scheme" will have devastating effects upon the government's bottom line?

Have a look at Christine Milnes call today to increase taxes on the big earners. You leftist/socialist/communist luvvies haven't got a clue.

It appears that all you can see is Rudd's "puff ball" promise to reduce your electricity bill by a massive $3 per week. Where is the money coming from to fill the lost revenue of the disbanded Carbon Tax?

There is going to be a hole in the government's finances that you obviously haven't been able to fathom. Just who do you think is going to foot that bill?

[dB]

10.

So if Abbott turns off the carbon tax all is well with the bottom line (in spite of his additional billions to be spent on direct action). But if Rudd turns it off, it leaves a hole?

[Allan]

11.

Did I say that? Don't try to put words in my mouth, you aren't clever enough.

Rudd's latest puff-ball effort to gain votes is totally dishonest and calculated. He, in his usual fashion, doesn't have anything but smoke and mirrors and lacking the guts and truthfulness to tell the Australian public that they are going to have to foot the bill. Is that too hard for you to understand?

If Abbot is pulling the same stunt then the same would apply, but you aren't sure that Abbott is going to do that are you? If you are then tell me about it.

[dB]

12.

but you aren't sure that Abbott is going to do that are you?

Do what? Switch off the carbon tax? He seems pretty committed to that.

[AlterEgo]

13.

Go To Man :

Where is the money coming from to fill the lost revenue of the disbanded Carbon Tax?

Late breaking news.

The money will be the $1.8 billion recovered from plugging the FBT for private use of company vehicles rort.

[AlterEgo]

14.

Go To Man said :

It appears that all you can see is Rudd's "puff ball" promise to reduce your electricity bill by a massive $3 per week.

If all the "Carbon Tax" did was raise the cost of domestic electricity by $3 per week (and that before susidies), then what was all the fuss about thatt the "Carbon Tax" caused?

[dB]

15.

It does seem somewhat twisted that those telling us how the carbon tax was going to be the end of the world, are now telling us that turning it off (or watering it right down to 1/4 strength) will be the end of the world, but only if Rudd turns it off. If Abbott turns it off all is well.

As you point out it seems Rudd has gone to a lot more effort to identify savings to cover the lost revenue than Abbott has. Abbott has the additional problem of having to find the extra 10 billion to cover his direct action plan (or 3 billion depending on which of his policy papers you read).

The choice seems pretty clear. If you're a tree hugger and don't care too much about the budget bottom line, vote Greens and/or LNP. If you're more concerned with fiscal responsibility than the environment, vote Labor.

[davesivyer]

16.

"If you're more concerned with fiscal
responsibility than the environment,
vote Labor."

Huh? What are you on?