The Carbon Tax – It’s like a Turd in a Swimming Pool

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[Richo]

1.

Shit happens:

Capitalism: That's MY shit

Communism: It's everybody's shit

Commercialism: Let's package this shit

[Pip]

2.

Well put Richo!

I would like to make a reply to James Paterson’s piece in the Australian today.

The best way for the right to win culture wars is to privatise them

• by: James Paterson
• From: The Australian
• November 11, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/the-best-way-for-the-right-to-win-culture-wars-is-to-privatise-them/story-e6frgd0x-1226191849227

Certainly, I have made my argument many times before but still the Right Conservatives et al refuse to listen. They blindly stumble on into the trap that was laid for them more than a century ago.

The first thing the Left did when it took over the MSM was to brand anyone who exposed what the Fabians, Progressives et al were up to as a conspiracy theory, to prohibit discourse. In fact the people who took up the “conspiracy theory” jibe with the most alacrity were the Conservatives because they believed in structures, traditions and “common sense” views more than most. So whilst the Fabians were busily subverting every tradition in the rule book, they knew they would not be challenged by the conservatives who were muzzled by the fear of appearing irrational, until it was too late.

We all know this has been going on now, but James Paterson is still too afraid to go there, tip toeing around the elephant in the room, or the turd in the swimming pool if you prefer, that only the staunch believers in tradition still fail to see.

I shall set out the argument in following posts because I always lose my posts now, if I make them too long.

[Pip]

3.

1. It is not the ABC Board that accounts for the ABC Left bias. It is achieved by means hidden to only those NOT in the know. The left bias is broadly achieved by affiliation with the BBC who “partner” with Mikhail Gorbechev’s “State of the World Forum”. It has undergone a few changes of name and educates, “social engineers” through the “next now collaborative” when I last looked. Just look at Robyn Williams on the Science show, valorizing the Royal Society (traditional home of freemasonry and Fabians) to mould opinion is also important

2. Paterson claims that interwoven in the Education system is the importance of the theory of sustainability etc. Once again there is naivety in the Coalition about this. It comes from UNESCO and the UN framework standards adopted by all countries. These bodies are informed by the Columbia University School of Earth Sciences as is the IPCC by the NASA Goddard Space Centre at Columbia run by James Hanson. Columbia is the brains trust of the whole societal change along with the LONDON School of Economics.

3. Frequently, I have mentioned the role of the Public Service in facilitating the UN and UNESCO programs. The Public service was social engineered first during the Hawke Government when they allowed US Entrepreneurial training groups to enter Australia as Tax free organisations. Private Entrepreneurial “group think” programs were run in the community and in the public service at tax payers expense. Groups like The Forum and Landmark education and Scientology spawned local variants. They set off an explosion in dodgy, unqualified opportunists, called trainers and facilitators, who set about meddling with the mindsets of as many naïveté’s as they could get their hands on.

4. Finally, the progressive, UN view of the World is now an entrenched mindset everywhere except in rural communities, perhaps?

[Pip]

4.

continued...

There is hardly any point in having a policy on it unless the Coalition has the courage to make a fundamental break with the UN, UNESCO and the collectivisation of Society. No matter how unpalatable this is Australia must form a Coalition with the Right in countries like Canada and the UK, but probably not the US because the right and left are heavily indoctrinated in the collectivisation Transition.

Except perhaps the Tea Party.

See James Paterson's article in the Australian.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/the-best-way-for-the-right-to-win-culture-wars-is-to-privatise-them/story-e6frgd0x-1226191849227

[Pip]

5.

PS. ABC Employees are public servants.

They would be frequently up-dated on their progressivist mindset training which is probably something the board would not see or regard as merely job training.

Everyone just accepts NGO's as part of the scene forever.

That is not correct.

NGO's were built on Voluntary organisations that traditionally existed as Missionaries but they were subsumed by the UN after the Earth Summit and became frontline troops for the UN. They rebadged themselves and were trained to do indocrinational training: outreach programs.

Every institution in Society has been subverted, even the Coalition. Tony Abbott has the distinction of seeming to be a breakaway.

Is this the case?

Or has he only broken away on the common sense issue of AGW?

Please can anyone tell me?

How hooked into the UN program is the Coalition?

[Pip]

6.

I may have found my answer?

Tony Abbott has been completely succoured into this declaration:

Tony Abbott backtracks on funding for IMF-led bailout of the eurozone

by: James Massola

From: The Australian November 11, 2011 11:41AM

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/tony-abbott-backtracks-on-funding-for-imf-led-bailout-of-the-eurozone/story-fn59nsif-1226192349016

Why is Tony Abbott not in talks with the 81 Eurosceptics in the UK Conservative party?

How can anyone believe he would have any courage to disobey the UN on AGW if he wimps out at the first hurdle?

[dante]

7.

It's simple. In Tony Abbott you don't have a leader but a follower. He, like most conservatives, is not capable of original thought. He swings with the wind, he responds to whatever is most popular on the day. He, like Rudd, is afraid of being unpopular.

[Pip]

8.

They are all like that in Australia.

If you listen to Paul Keating, you would think that floating the currency was his own original idea! NOT!

The progressives are merely following the progressives script. He just complains about lack of narrative because he would like them to make up something about it to entertain the the "TRUE BELIEVERS" and plebs and the bogans or whatever he calls them.

He complained in the recent interview with Leigh Sales that he hates incrementalism. He gets bored with all the drama being hidden.

Back to Europe:

I hear a rumour about new currencies. There is one that is supposed to be more for the Business Orientated zone- it's called the Bozo. then of course the Germany Only National Zone - the Gonzo.

[Grantley]

9.

Sadly Pip, any one pollie that tries to turn around the mindset that you refer to is probably going to last all of 5 minutes as the public sector and the non-productive sector of our society are many in number. Your reference to rural communities non acceptance of this mindset is very pertinent because rural communities have for a long time now had to compete with overseas markets while producing under artificially high Australian cost of production. Trust me, I know, been there done that!!

And yes, Abbott should stick to his guns re: Euro bailouts....it is of their own making, the solutions are theirs (EU) and theirs alone.

The challenge we face is not to get sucked into the same vortex and make the most of our golden opportunity for ourselves and future generations of Australians. To do this we must SUPPORT the PRODUCTIVE sector of our society not let it be stripped by the non-productive spenders and wasters...whether they be be here or overseas....and that is at the very core of my dislike of the ALP...I have never seen or heard a word about wealth creation from those idiots, only re-distribution.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

[Dante]

10.

There is an essential problem that escapes those NOT in a position to make real decisions, Tony Abbott for example, and people that believe solutions rest with the Right or the Left side of politics.

Conservative thinking on both side of the fence is out of date and out of step with reality. Decisions taken elsewhere are far more important and have a far greater impact than decisions taken by Australia. Thus comments like "we must SUPPORT the PRODUCTIVE sector of our society not let it be stripped by the non-productive spenders and wasters...whether they be be here or overseas....and that is at the very core of my dislike of the ALP...I have never seen or heard a word about wealth creation from those idiots, only re-distribution" are stupid in the extreme. Like it or not, we live in a global economy and to think that we, a nation of a mere 20 million, could make the difference is delusional. We need to be part of this global economy and participate ... and this is where the ALP is far superior than the Libs. Gough moved us into the 21st century, Hawke & Keating lowered trade barriers, Rudd and Gillard joined the rest of the world in addressing world issues.

[bluebell]

11.

Look what the Gillard government has done! But never fear, her Carbon Tax will fix everything!

http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/story/2011/11/11/path-forward-jobs-in-the-green-sector-conservation/

[Grantley]

12.

"Like it or not, we live in a global economy and to think that we, a nation of a mere 20 million, could make the difference is delusional."

....so our adoption of a Carbon Tax is therefore....delusional.

The ALP have always been wasters and this will never change as it is in their physche.
Participating in the Golbal Market and throwing good money after bad are two very different issues that you clearly have no understanding of Dante. Enjoy your weekend.

[Pip]

13.

and in part Grantley,

but of course, I am more in sympathy with your views Grantley.

Dante says:

"We need to be part of this global economy and participate ... and this is where the ALP is far superior than the Libs. Gough moved us into the 21st century, Hawke & Keating lowered trade barriers, Rudd and Gillard joined the rest of the world in addressing world issues."

The Type of Global economy that is being pursued is the progressive program I have been referring too---it is the centrist, collectivist approach. Of course Keating Gillard et al are more linked into it!

That is what I'm saying, Howard, the Coalition et al are making monkey's of themselves by going along with it. They seem to think it is neutral!!! WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO WAKE UP!!

The Coalition think that because American neo-cons are pushing the democratising revolution in the middle east and David Cameron is promoting the Saul Alinsky/Gramsci mindset change in the UK that they have to go along with it. Norway is outside the Eurozone and Sweden too, we don't have to follow every move.

I wish Coalition people still came to this site, instead of the occasional Senator dropping some piece of info-media-lite on us.

The reason is I think someone needs to tell Tony Abbott to meet with the 81 Eurosceptics. This is a RESISTANCE and he needs to get on board. He is at the intersection right now, in repaeling the Carbon Tax if he wins power. The Eurozone can be on the brink of breakup with a bit more effort from everyone who cares about freedom.

This is a sweet spot and nobody seems to get it.

Please read the piece from Danial Hannan I am posting below.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100116991/its-not-the-break-up-of-the-euro-that-will-bring-armageddon-vince-its-carrying-on-as-now/

[Pip]

14.

It's not the break-up of the euro that will bring Armageddon, Vince, it's carrying on as now

By Daniel Hannan

Politics Last updated: November 11th, 2011

A break-up of the euro, says Vince Cable, would mean an 'economic Armageddon' for Britain. If so, what word is strong enough to describe the euro's survival? What apocalypse, what Götterdämmerung, lies in store for us if the single currency is held together, at the cost of deflation, penury and emigration for its peripheral members and permanent tax-rises for its core? What would be the effect on Britain of the ruin of so many of its trading partners?

The Business Secretary's language will be familiar to anyone who was around 20 years ago. We were told the same thing about the break-up of the euro's baleful predecessor, the ERM. Leaving the mechanism, John Major insisted, would be 'the inflationary option, the devaluer's option, a betrayal of the future of our country'. In the event, of course, our recovery began on the day we left: the blessed sixteenth of September 1992.

It's true that we face hard times. There are no easy outcomes for a continent groaning under Europe's accumulated debt levels. None the less, it seems pretty clear that a euro break-up is the least bad option. According to the Centre for Economics and Business Research – which, unlike Mr Cable, has bothered to model the figures – a break-up of the euro would lead to short-term pain followed by renewed growth, whereas carrying on as now would cause prolonged recession.

It is not, and nor ought it to be, in Britain's power to tell its Continental allies to abandon their monetary union. They are sovereign countries, and are free to exercise that sovereignty by abandoning it if they choose. What is inexplicable, though, is that we should be investing not just political capital, but actual capital in trying to hold the euro together.

Our deficit is higher now than it was under Gordon Brown. We are on the hook for £12.5 billion – £500 for every household in the land – in the Greek, Irish and Portuguese bailouts. Our treasury is empty, our credit exhausted. Yet it is being seriously proposed that we borrow another £40 billion to give to the IMF in order to prop up a currency union which is asphyxiating its constituent members. What the devil are we thinking?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100116991/its-not-the-break-up-of-the-euro-that-will-bring-armageddon-vince-its-carrying-on-as-now/

[Pip]

15.

You see, the problem is that Daniel Hannan instintively knows that the integration of Europe is a political program more than anything else but refuses to come out in the Telegraph and say that it is the Socialist enterprise that the American's have promised China and Russia.

Surely people can see this?

With more and more integration and growth of bureacrasies at the centre, with continuing UN/UNESCO framework structures in everything from educating children to propert allocation and the return of wild creature to the wild, this is communitarian socialism. Does it matter if we call it Communism or Socialism?

We can conduct International trade without going down the route of the progressivists diktats. There is not only one way.

and Grantley, the reason Gillard had a coup with the Carbon tax is that smaller countries doing something is a "fillip" in the hands of the Global Progressive Project. That is precisely why we don't one, apart from of course being bad for Australia.

We are the RESISTANCE.

By the way, SBS- The Bible: A History, last week the theologian/physicist kept referring to life on this planet as carbon based life. Everything is made from it, if there were no carbon there would be no LIFE!

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/2164354598/The-Bible-A-History-Ep-1-Creation

Watch it on SBSvideo- it expires in 2 days.

[Pip]

16.

If any one has access to Tony Abbott, PLEASE get him to speak to the 81 Eurosceptics. He must start networking other Climate Sceptics and Eurosceptics in Canada and UK.

Like the Progressives we need to develop counter institutions. There needs to be a shadow UN, a shadow UNESCO within those current Institutions. They cannot remain ABOVE dictating everything. Its all out now, everyone knows about it, so we have to demand democracy in every institution like the IMF.

Divide them all in half and instead of the LEFT ambushing us into everything, they will be forced into discourse.

Why should the IMF be populated by leftists like DSK, Gordon Brown etal.

DON'T YOU SEE THEY ARE PUSHING US TO BE BI-PARTISAN IN EVERYTHING, THEIR WAY......NO WAY!

Even Brendon Nelson popped his head up to say "Save the Eurozone"- NO, let it go! Its like barracking for GetUp!

The Coalition seriously think these orgs are neutral. Peter Costello was even waiting for his "best treasurer in the World" badge! Look mate you don't get on of those unless you're a socialist, dummy!

We need shadow organisations and with video conferencing, I'm sure the World Opposition can get together without all the chemtrails associated with the current bozo's.

In fact, if those orgs are reduced by having an opposition, there will be less need for fanfare.

Let's get real, ALL the Global Organizations are run by Socialists, ever since WWII. No wonder they are laughing at us!

[SignedIn]

17.

"And yes, Abbott should stick to his guns re: Euro bailouts....it is of their own making, the solutions are theirs (EU) and theirs alone."

Is Gillard bailing out Europe?
No.
Does Abbott now accept that further contributions to the IMF are reasonable?
Yes

[Michael Webb]

18.

Well if carbon tax is a turd then it is a turd that enjoys the support of half of the Liberal Party and also of a couple of past Liberal Party leaders.

Tony Abbott never enjoyed full support on a different kind of decision he had hoped to make ie rejection of the abortafacient RU486. Remember who opposed him and how his health portfolio powers on this issue were taken from him and passed to the Drug and Therapeutic Goods Administration?

Shows that more than half the Liberal team are playing as two teams and not one on moral issues as well as on the carbon tax issue.

[SignedIn]

19.

"and that is at the very core of my dislike of the ALP...I have never seen or heard a word about wealth creation from those idiots, only re-distribution."

Of course none of the stimulus in the shadow of the GFC went to private companies did it? Oh wait ...
Did the stimulus create and keep jobs?
That is wealth creation as well as being re-distribution. Dual roles.

But wouldn't you prefer government not do anything in the market place? Many here would think the government should never be involved in wealth creation, but get out of the way so people can create wealth.

[SignedIn]

20.

The only people crapping in their own pool is the cabal that supports Tony Abbott and his ilk.

[Grantley]

21.

Oh yes the mighty stimulus....gee that was productive spending...gone on imported products with the biggest winners being China, India, Korea and other low cost manufacturers....yep, stroke of genius that one. Surprised you didnt offer the BER as an example of responsible spending or pink batts...another couple of examples of ALP largesse at a time when prudence and responsibility were needed.

The easiest thing in the world to do is spend other peoples money and your beloved ALP are experts at that... and have proved themselves over several generations.

And the EU...Australia should not make any additional contributions to the IMF...none, nilch, nix, zero.

No thanks Signed In and Michael...I'll have Abbott over anything the ALP can throw up or regurgitate any day of the week thankyou, you can defend your ALP all you like but you may as well talk to a brick wall here.

[SignedIn]

22.

I may as well talk to a brick wall because you ignored the questions.
Do you really want a government creating wealth?
Or was your point above "I have never seen or heard a word about wealth creation from those idiots" hypocritical?

[grantley]

23.

sigh....cant you work it out for yourself?.
Govts do not create wealth, however, the policies they put in place can either enable the populace to do so or stand in the way of the populace.

The ALP, the love child of the union movement, can never break away from its shackles long enough to allow true competition, so instead it interferes and manipulates and generally ends up stuffing things up....but you already know this.

[SignedIn]

24.

So in other words yes you were being hypocritical.
You don't to hear government talk about wealth creation.

[Michael Webb]

25.

Well, as an ALP and DLP voting "idiot" might I suggest that with Australia's large and medium companies posting record profitsfor over 20 years, surely re-distribution of the profits to workers through real bonuses and pay rises and conditions is surely in order.

It is idiotic rather to think that executives and middle and senior managers should be taking the lion's percentage share and yet crying foul if the rest of their workforces are asking for similar percentages.

[Pip]

26.

This is not a topic about Fairwork Australia, they will be discussing that over at the ALP website.

To me the real elephant in the room or turd in the swimming pool is the erosion of democracy that we are increasingly seeing.

Julia Gillard and Greg Combet congratulate themselves at forcing the carbon tax through the Australian Parliament against the peoples wishes. These days the ALP applauds itself when it manipulates the Parliamentary outcome to be the exact opposite of the will of the people.

The same in Europe: Social Democracy they say!
Where's the Democracy?

Democracy is being sacrificed in Europe.

Lack of democratic accountability risks an eventual, and possibly extreme, populist backlash. Far from unifying Europe, the euro threatens eventual Balkanisation.

By Telegraph View
8:27PM GMT 11 Nov 2011

>None the less, the virtual suspension of the democratic process that euro membership seems increasingly to demand should be viewed with alarm. Legitimacy, it appears, is expendable; the single currency is not. From the start, the march to European unification has always implied an erosion of sovereignty. But we seem to be reaching the point where the diktats of a small policy elite vastly outweigh the decisions of national parliaments.

>The constraints of the single currency seem to be condemning much of Europe to virtual depression. Lack of democratic accountability, moreover, risks an eventual, and possibly extreme, populist backlash. Far from unifying Europe, the euro threatens eventual Balkanisation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8884296/Democracy-is-being-sacrificed-in-Europe.html

[Michael Webb]

27.

Yes the carbon tax is something that I totally oppose as do most ALP voters. Elites and middle class spoilt brat mentality runs the ALP and not only the ALP.

Tax free for companies to set up and get a customer base forst for use of alternate low emissions energy would have been the better way by far. Then when sufficient profit comes through the door, the new energy industries could then be put onto the company tax rate like the rest.

I oppose this idea of punishing existing forms of energy suppliers through a carbon tax.

[Andy Semple]

28.

You're right Michael, half the liberals are little progressives that think the carbon dioxide tax is a winner.
Thats why It's importantthe smarter half keep them at bay

[Barry]

29.

You can re-distribute the wealth as much as you like , it will still make it's way back to where it came from.
It's not about re-distributing wealth,it's about controlling your life .
So, unless you want to end up heeling like a dog ,kick these brainless idiots off the planet.
Wake up Australia.!!!!