NBC quotes Al Gore and Warns about Global Warming

The reference to Al Gore starts at 2:10 into the video. Below is the actual text.

Unfortunately for the Netherlands, and especially the city of Dordrecht, which has been hard-hit by floods several times in its history, Huibers’ ominous dream of 20 years ago has become more of a reality. In the Oscar-winning documentary “An Inconvenient Truth,” former U.S. Vice President Al Gore warned of the future melting of Greenland’s ice, which he said would be “absolutely devastating” to the low-lying Netherlands.

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So why did the reporter decide to trumpet global warming and quote Al Gore and his movie, “An Inconvenient Truth”?

And now we have big Al lecturing suggesting to women that they should consider having less children.

“One of the things we could do about it is to change the technologies, to put out less of this pollution, to stabilize the population, and one of the principle ways of doing that is to empower and educate girls and women. You have to have ubiquitous availability of fertility management so women can choose how many children have, the spacing of the children.

You have to lift child survival rates so that parents feel comfortable having small families and most important — you have to educate girls and empower women. And that’s the most powerful leveraging factor, and when that happens, then the population begins to stabilize and societies begin to make better choices and more balanced choices.”

Andy Semple

 

Comments

[Ben]

1.

Hmm…the same Al Gore who continually makes references to WWII, right? I wonder when Gillard will distance herself from his rhetoric.

[pk]

2.

I see nothing wrong with those last two paragraphs Andy. It's sound very sensible to me, no matter who said it.

I suppose you prefer we keep women uneducated and in poverty with limted medical aid - so they they are forced to pump out child after child, living in a continuing cycle of hellish existence. Is suggesting anything different from this life seen by you to be 'anti-human'?

Maybe a have a chat to a 17 year old mother five to see how 'anti-human' a chance at education and control of her own desinty is to her.

[Ben]

3.

PS> My bad: I forget Al Gore is a leftwing messiah figure, and as a leftwing messiah figure he can say what he likes when he likes (blessed be his green holy name). And ye shall see the sea levels fall if ye follow his green ways.

[Account Deleted]

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It’s not Al Gore’s place to lecture women on how many children they should have in order to “save the planet”
Don’t make assumptions about me PK. You don’t know me so stop saying stuff you know nothing about.

[pk]

5.

If Ronald Regan rose from the dead and said this it would still be a sensible and pertinent point to make and I would agree with him.

It's not as if many, many people aren't pushing for this already......

http://www.halftheskymovement.org/

[pk]

6.

or maybe you'd prefer to hear it from Goldman Sachs....

http://www2.goldmansachs.com/ideas/demographic-change/women-hold-up-half-the-sky.html

[pk]

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"..to lecture women on how many children they should have..."

This statemnet suggests women have a choice in the matter of child bearing. Sorry to break it to you, but in the third world - most women have no choice at all.

[Marksouth]

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"I suppose you prefer we keep women uneducated and in poverty with limted medical aid - so they they are forced to pump out child after child, living in a continuing cycle of hellish existence. "

lol, what? pk, you really are the master of the straw man argument. Not even Al Gore tried that angle.

[pk]

9.

I'm just trying to work out what the problem is with what Al Gore said (and why it's been posted here) or is it only the fact that Al Gore said it which raises ire, no matter how actually reasonable the point may be?

[JeffT]

10.

Al Gore has been into population control and reduction since his book - Earth in Balance.
"Clearly, it is time for a global effort to create everywhere on earth the conditions conducive to stabilizing population."
- Al Gore, Earth in the Balance.

[Anton]

11.

stop saying stuff you know nothing about.

That doesn't leave pk much to talk about

[Pip]

12.

Let me butt in with a complete change of subject, from this topic of course. Speaking about Christopher Monckton is not a change of subject for me-"yawn"

CRIKEY is really going to town on Christopher Monckton they must being really worried about his reach.

http://www.crikey.com.au/topic/christopher-monckton/

[Pip]

13.

typo- they must be really worried about his reach.

I noticed he is doing a lot of Country venues this time. Many more it would seem than the Tim Flannery entourage has done.

He is of course copping some mega flack from the AGW crowd which is just brilliant. It seems Monckton could outdo Flannery with one hand tied behind his back.

I commend him for that.

They can nitpick his substance till the cows come home but he is such an entertaining performer, that is what counts.

[pip]

14.

Look out for this one!

They are ready for Christopher Monckton and are going to take him on!

Lets hope we see some of that?

>>>Lord Monckton is due to speak at Notre Dame University's Fremantle campus next Thursday.

The Mayor of Fremantle, Brad Pettitt, who will be attending the lecture, says it is important it goes ahead.

"By engaging with people like this and showing how factually incorrect they are and this needs to be debated about, the fact and the climate science is very certain, I think we can actually show them for the frauds that they are and I think this is actually really important to have this event and actually show him for what he is and have that engagement."

The university's Dean of Business Chris Doepel says some invited guests now want it cancelled, but the event will go ahead.

"The university will hold it because we have a commitment to academic freedom," he said.

Professor Doepel says there are no plans to censor Lord Monckton's presentation.

"I think Lord Monckton is coming into this country with a clear understanding of the boundaries around polite discussion," he said.

Professor Doepel says the 200-strong crowd will be free to ask questions.

Earlier this week, the Association of Mining and Exploration Companies confirmed Lord Monckton would speak at its conference in Perth next week.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/24/3253063.htm?section=justin

[terra]

15.

They can nitpick his substance till the cows come home but he is such an entertaining performer, that is what counts.

Style over content..... couldn't have put it any better...

[Pip]

16.

Exactly,

I don't approve of it any more than you seem to but that is the way it is.

Everything has become burlesque, sort of like the culture in Germany in the run up to WWII.

It is very,very serious but you require "performance" edge now to cut through.

Does anyone listen to the arguements coming from the opposing side?

Well yes, the proponents do, up to a point, just to garner more ammunition to shoot them down.

[Pip]

17.

The mix of issues and theory on this thread is a sign post to where we are at.

Number one sigh of relief is that Alan Stockdale has survived the challenge by the old guard, read dinosaurs, of Howard Liberals. That is a major victory in my view. Good on Minchin. I hope he contests a Lower House seat next?

But I digress.

For me the division between Andy and Pk in this thread comes back to the concept
of freedom of choice. No matter how much Pk sees himself on the moral high ground,
on the side of the planet etc.etc.

Sure Pk will want to spin the discussion out into “Global” territory, “saving the planet”, saving limited resources etc etc. and the best way to do that is to make everyone a limited stakeholder in the system, very limited, just a crumb for everyone. Reaganomics.

But what we have now is Reagonomics meets AGW.

This is a whole different level of entitlememt versus responsibility. Responsibility is now leveraged through the carbon debate, an artificial debate but it works a treat.

Listen to Geraldine Doogue’s Saturday Extra, today she had on an Urban planning talking head, Kim Dovey, suggesting that the most recent ways of enforcing density on people have brought about a back lash because people recognise that the planning authorities are getting their way through subterfuge. He said people want to hold onto their old Heritage icons, not because they want to preserve “Place” but because they are secretly rascist bulwarks that can be thrown up to preserve their suburbs for “PEOPLE LIKE US” – PLU.

He justifies his attitude by saying of course we have to live more densely, “to save carbon emissions”, so we can get to work by bike etc. The Architect Peter Maddison, of Australia’s Grand Designs, says people will just have to “get over” their love affair with the detached house and be like Europeans, sophisticated and carbon dioxide free with all of the advantages of living in a sardine can?

Everywhere it’s the same mantra, big “Global” cities are the answer to saving carbon dioxide, and providing the big city experience “everyone wants”- Do we? Bringing in advanced infrastructure, like high speed trains etc etc.

Once again elites are telling us what owe problems are, how they are going to be solved-by the Global Template worked out at head office.

Having fewer children is of course directed at Developing Nations, since we in the West gave up having big families when we grasped the Reagonomic dream. But population control is a principal aim of cramming the population that continues to blossom on the fringes of every City into the Global carbon dioxide free Global City Hub, one size fits all.

This is a template that is stamped out everywhere the same, where every elite practitioner talks it up to remain in the market place of ideas. This is not a World where the freethinker or person with alternative ideas can flourish; in fact over the last while we see an intention growing to tattoo, mark these people as enemies of the State and subject them to large doses of carbon dioxide or monoxide (sic).

Unfortunately, as ever, Elite Utopian ideas have their downside.

There is nothing new about elite ideas, they are old UTOPIAN ideas, which the same elite have always contrived to maintain its position and keep the lower orders in line. The benefits of the elite designed sustainability still destroys the environment, US Gulf oil drilling etc, Uranium land and water pollution, Olympic Dam etc. Look what they did to Iraq?

Not to negate the F D Roosevelt line that a dose of radicalization from time to time is good in a democracy. There will be some pluses coming out of this period but an ETS will not be one of them.

[Georgina]

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Has anyone been to Greenland lately? I have and know for a fact that the ice is not melting. Been to the iciest part at Disko Bay and amongst the huge icebergs which have remained the same as long as the inhabitants can remember. This so-called ice melting of Greenland is the biggest "scam" of all time.

Now Gore is TELLING women what to do. Not to have too many children (will the Muslims please note!!!) We are also TOLD not to eat meat as cows emit Methane. We are TOLD that we must have a carbon tax (after Julia Gillard lied just before the general election stating we would not have a carbon tax under the government she led. We are TOLD that Australia must lead the way (or not be left behind) with a carbon tax when the US Supreme Court says that the science is not yet proven. Of course we can see what is happening - people with no sense telling us what we must do. There is an ulterior motive and agenda with this government to ruin the country by dictatorship. Wars have taken place against dictatorship when thousands of our great Australians have been killed. Australians should wake up before our country is ruined and it will be hard to restore democracy for the people of this once beautiful land.

[SignedIn]

19.

"It’s not Al Gore’s place to lecture women on how many children they should have in order to “save the planet”"

Nor is it the place for Republicans (or Liberals/Christian Democrats/DLP in Australia) to legislate against women's reproductive rights.

However it is a fact that with education and knowledge - as women have become more equal in society - birth rates in western nations have dropped.

Gore is not telling women what to do, but describing what happens when women have more choice.

[pk]

20.

"Nor is it the place for Republicans (or Liberals/Christian Democrats/DLP in Australia) to legislate against women's reproductive rights."

Oh don't you worry, they'll keep trying to.

And they'll continue to fight to keep contraceptives and drugs like RU486 out of the hands of women, for whom these drugs have been developed - Just like in this case..

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/ru486-abortion-trial-without-precedent-in-australian-court/story-fn3dxity-1225885065067

And they'll continue to intimidate and film women and staff who enter abortion
clinics.

And they'll continue to cut funding to overseas programs which offer contraceptives to 3rd world mothers.

And they'll continue to generally demonise women for taking control of their own lives daily online and in the media....

....but you know that's all ok. It's when Al Gore starts talking about the proven improvements to womens' lives and soceity as a whole, when women have a chance to get an education, over becoming mothers at age 14, that the sky starts falling.

I guess that's because god is on their side and anyone else is just a dangerous leftie who wants to erode individual freedoms.

Oh the irony is delicious!

[Georgina]

21.

"Gore is not telling women what to do but describe what happens when women have more choice?" So women should have no control over their choice whether it be more or less children? Tell that to the Muslims who love BIG families. See if they take notice.

Evidently you do not believe in democracy so run along with propaganda and have no choice in what you are told to do.

You say birth rates have dropped in Western nations well why is Gore telling women not to have more children? I reiterate, Muslims love big families so they won't take notice of Gore's remarks.

[pk]

22.

"why is Gore telling women not to have more children? "

Can you read Georgina? If so can you please find and quote for us the bit where Al Gore is TELLING women (first or third world) to stop having kids?

[Georgina]

23.

You are the one who needs to read. Read "The Blaze" - "Gore CALLS on women to have fewer children so that pollution can be cut" "Women NEED to feel comfortable about having small families". By "calling on" women to have fewer children is telling them they should. What right has he to suggest women should have small families. I CALL on you to stop your nonsense.

[pk]

24.

Nuance seems a bit lost on you Georgina, I know you enjoy thinking of extremes, but he's hardly putting forward one child legislation here.

Someone who 'calls' upon people to consider having a smaller family and goes on to list the benefits of doing so, is not at all telling them they HAVE TO.
(Even though it's a bloody good idea and something women in the third world would dearly love to do if they weren't presently being treated like babymaking chattle.)

[Georgina]

25.

pk You will wake up someday. You still have a lot to learn. Give me a comment in 5 years time and we'll see who's right.

[pk]

26.

Sorry Georgina, I don't need the test-of-time to know that not having 12 children is good for your health, your family economy, your use of resources, your personal education levels and ultimately your society.