From Jo Nova's website:
A team of skeptical scientists, citizens, and an Australian Senator have lodged a formal request with the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) to have the BOM and CSIRO audited.
The BOM claim their adjustments are “neutral” yet Ken Stewart showed that the trend in the raw figures for our whole continent has been adjusted up by 40%. The stakes are high. Australians could have to pay something in the order of $870 million dollars thanks to the Kyoto protocol, and the first four years of the Emissions Trading Scheme was expected to cost Australian industry (and hence Australian shareholders and consumers) nearly $50 billion dollars.
Given the stakes, the Australian people deserve to know they are getting transparent, high quality data from the Bureau of Meteorology (BOM). The small cost of the audit is nothing in comparison with the money at stake for all Australians. We need the full explanations of why individual stations have been adjusted repeatedly and non-randomly, and why adjustments were made decades after the measurements were taken. We need an audit of surface stations. (Are Australian stations as badly manipulated and poorly sited as the US stations? Who knows?)
Read the rest and the letter that was sent at joannenova.com.au
I have tried to post this on the thread relating to the removed post yesterday but conveniently the thread has been closed!
So I will have to put it here, as its important we have free speech when we smell a rat, looks like a rat.....
>>>If it looks like a stunt...
This Joe Hockey criticism looks like a blatant ploy to get advertising for MenziesHouse.com.au, if you ask me. It was probably an attempt also by the Libertarian Wing to oust Hockey but make it look like it was just coming from some youthful activists.
I have to agree with Christian Kerr’s article in the Australian last year, that Cory Bernardi may try and distance himself from Menzies House but whilst
Chris Browne,
Co-Founder & Editor-in-Chief of Menzies House remains on the staff of Cory Bernardi, this merely looks like obfuscation.
You have managed to get some mainstream press coverage last night on the ABC, today in the AGE and from Michelle Grattan, no less, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?
Joe Hockey circus must end: Liberal, Michelle Grattan
February 17, 2011
http://www.theage.com.au/national/joe-hockey-circus-must-end-liberal-20110216-1awob.html
Where else did you manage some very high profile free advertising?
Is the real intent to trash the Coalition?
This is perhaps the hidden agenda behind this story?
Posted by: Pip | February 17, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I wonder if my posts will last?
I am interested in the BOM story but there has to be somewhere to address this Menzies House shenanigans.
Well the Hockey story got coverage in the Australian even outing the relationship between Chris Browne and Cory Bernardi again with Bernardi backing Chris Browne in everything.
Cory Bernardi denies website attack on Hockey was a strike on Liberal moderates
• James Massola
• From: The Australian
• February 17, 2011 9:08AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/cory-bernardi-denies-website-attack-on-hockey-was-a-strike-on-liberal-moderates/story-fn59niix-1226007361180
>>>But Senator Bernadi, one of the leading figures in the party's conservative wing, said the piece should not be viewed as a strike against Liberal moderates.
"Only unkind people would draw that conclusion, given my public support for Joe Hockey," the South Australian senator said.
Ha,ha,ha..what a joke, the whole story is out in a patchwork of mainstream articles.
It is damaging the Coalition brand? I agree with Bernardi’s position on AGW and on small platoons but this may end up torpedoeing the Coalition!
Is Cory Bernardi being hoodwinked himself?
Posted by: Pip | February 17, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Another one!
Lib leadership a 'house of cards'
ANDREW PROBYN, FEDERAL POLITICAL EDITOR, EXCLUSIVE, The West Australian February 17, 2011, 2:15 am
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/8855747/lib-leadership-a-house-of-cards/
This looks more and more like a Coalition take down?
Very good for Menzies House....
Posted by: Pip | February 17, 2011 at 12:37 PM
I'm not sure if you've noticed, Pip, but the Libs are stronger in the polls now than they have been in the last few years. This has been done with a conservative leader and a return to conservative values after a period of 'wetness'. So in this reshuffle one of the 'wet' populists has been a little out of sorts and uncertain where he fits in the picture. So what? It's part of building a stronger more relevant party.
Posted by: Michael Sutcliffe | February 17, 2011 at 01:02 PM
damn it pip.
go back to your "Lost" forums.
Posted by: Vikas Nayak | February 17, 2011 at 01:06 PM
Michael, Vikas, Graham ( over at the multi-cultural thread ),
I think for you, this is about building a more Libertarian Opposition. It may be about knocking out the Coalition altogether?
There are attacks on both flanks.
Cory Bernardi et al are moving against the Moderates for being wet.
The Moderates are moving against the Conservatives for being rascist.
Who is left?
Libertarians, the right compliment to the left Globalists.
Looks like a new paradigm to me.
Read:.
Anti-racism capaign back on the agenda
• Steve Lewis
• From: The Daily Telegraph
• February 17, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/anti-racism-capaign-back-on-the-agenda/story-e6freuzr-1226007202302
Liberals' policy hatched in One Nation heartland
• Michael McKenna
• From: The Australian
• February 17, 2011 12:00AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/liberals-asylum-policy-hatched-in-one-nation-heartland/story-fn59niix-1226007223802
It looks like this might have been a long range campaign starting with Mark Riley.
I don’t defend the Conservatives playing the racism card if they are. I didn’t take the link for Malcolm Fraser’s article attacking Scott Morrison as a rascist. Bad luck, look for it.
Big co-ordinated campaign on isn’t there?
You people are in a Faustian bargain, supporters of the new regime may well end up with a lot they did not bargain for.
Posted by: Pip | February 17, 2011 at 01:27 PM
Big co-ordinated campaign on isn’t there?
Well, Pip, it's only my own observations, but what I believe has happened is the classical liberal / libertarian right did not really exist in this country until the last ten years or so, and classical liberal ideas were only present in academic circles and amongst the well educated, generally wealthy, elite.
Australia's short history coming from a British colony, and the nature of Australians broadly seeing themselves as not particularly sophisticated and generally of the working class, has resulted in a culture not overly seeking of self-government except perhaps through things like the labour movement. This is despite those aspects of the Australian psyche that are 'rugged individualist' in nature eg. the lone stockman, or the anti-authoritarian Ned Kelly, or the independent Simpson and his donkey. The fact is Australians were generally raised in a collectivist culture and accepted the authority of the educated elites, or 'the bosses', or what have you, even if it was reluctantly. This is why previous attempts at a classical liberal right movement in Australia - eg the Liberal Democratic Party of E.K White in the 1930s or the Workers Party of John Singleton in the 1970s were ultimately not sustainable due to a lack of widespread understanding of classical liberalism.
In the last couple of decades we've had access to much more information through things like the internet and media. There is a much greater exchange of ideas around the world, especially the western world, there is a greater understanding of history, a greater understanding of post-Enlightenment ideas and how they founded the modern Western world, there are more people following American politics and seeing how that functions. This has led to a greater understanding of the pragmatic application of classical liberal ideas this has resulted in the situation you're seeing. I don't think there's any greater conspiracy theory underpinning it!
Posted by: Michael Sutcliffe | February 17, 2011 at 02:48 PM
An Audit of CSIRO and BOM? What does that mean? Send in a new group of scientists and meteorologists to check data?. What a preposterous idea!
Posted by: Pia Robinson | February 17, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Is Pip ranting about the Bilderbergers again?!
Posted by: Dan Nolan | February 17, 2011 at 09:39 PM
What did uncle Bilderberg do this time?
Posted by: Vikas Nayak | February 17, 2011 at 09:50 PM
Wow! ... the last few links are to http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/policy_driven_deception.html (Monkton's site - Monkton still thinks volcanos emit more CO2 than humans), and one to http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/surfacestationsreport_spring09.pdf (Anthony Watts' encyclopedia of long suffering science crockery)
... this must be a classy article :-|
May as well link to Fox 'news'.
It really looks like these guys believe in a Grand Communist Conspiracy, encompassing thousands of scientists and governement types ... Oh how we yearn for the 50s LOL. Menzies would roll in his grave at what you guys are doing to his name.
Posted by: Mahageekster | February 17, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Thats the plan Maha.
Then we tie him up to a generator and solve all future energy crises'.
Posted by: Vikas Nayak | February 17, 2011 at 10:23 PM
Big co-ordinated campaign on isn’t there?
You have deliberately misunderstood/ misrepresented me but thank you Michael for your assessment.
By co-ordinated campaign, I was referring to the current well springs of discontent spilling over in the Liberal party.
Is it a storm in a teacup?
It seems Alan Jones has his big ears close to another pair of big ears in the Liberal party and says this storm in a teascup within the Liberals is a co-ordinated campaign by South Australian Jamie Briggs and Queenslander Steve Ciobo.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/its-not-alan-jones-party-but-hell-cry-if-he-wants-to/story-e6freuzr-1226007827729
I would appreciate getting further clarification on where the leakers allegiances lie, presumably not with Tony Abbott?
Do these particular individuals have anything to do with MenziesHouse?
I happen to be one of the people who will not support the Coalition if Tony Abbott is deposed as leader.
Posted by: Pip | February 18, 2011 at 12:30 PM